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Post by Toronto Blue Jays on Feb 6, 2017 17:16:23 GMT -5
I'd vote for 2 options. Make adjustments for subsequent years if needed.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 6, 2017 17:31:22 GMT -5
Option years do not count toward the total contract value.
STL, even if you accept the option you would still not get a 20% discount. Options are to be used during free agency. In order to receive a 20% the player must have been won in the initial auction draft, or drafted in the initial minor league draft or rookie draft. I think the way to go would be is you can use 1 option year on ANY 2 players per year. You can trade for as many players with options as you want. Once you give any 2 players an option you are not allowed to give another player an option until the following year even if you traded one of those players away.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 17:35:06 GMT -5
Josh, what do you mean by "you can give" an option?
Correct me if I'm wrong but the only time a team may include an option year contract is during the auction?
Not counting the initial one.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 6, 2017 17:42:03 GMT -5
Josh, what do you mean by "you can give" an option? Correct me if I'm wrong but the only time a team may include an option year contract is during the auction? Not counting the initial one. Yes you can add a + sign as an option year for free agency auctions |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 17:46:48 GMT -5
Option years do not count toward the total contract value. STL, even if you accept the option you would still not get a 20% discount. Options are to be used during free agency. In order to receive a 20% the player must have been won in the initial auction draft, or drafted in the initial minor league draft or rookie draft. I think the way to go would be is you can use 1 option year on ANY 2 players per year. You can trade for as many players with options as you want. Once you give any 2 players an option you are not allowed to give another player an option until the following year even if you traded one of those players away. Yes, that makes more sense now. Though what happens with say, rookies on their first FA contract? Let's say I have Bregman coming up on free agency and I slap an option year on him, but I decline that option year when the time comes, can I still claim a discount or did the discount expire when his initial contract expired? Same deal with rookies on their second contract, does the discount expire after the first FA contract? |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 6, 2017 17:53:29 GMT -5
Option years do not count toward the total contract value. STL, even if you accept the option you would still not get a 20% discount. Options are to be used during free agency. In order to receive a 20% the player must have been won in the initial auction draft, or drafted in the initial minor league draft or rookie draft. I think the way to go would be is you can use 1 option year on ANY 2 players per year. You can trade for as many players with options as you want. Once you give any 2 players an option you are not allowed to give another player an option until the following year even if you traded one of those players away. Yes, that makes more sense now. Though what happens with say, rookies on their first FA contract? Let's say I have Bregman coming up on free agency and I slap an option year on him, but I decline that option year when the time comes, can I still claim a discount or did the discount expire when his initial contract expired? Same deal with rookies on their second contract, does the discount expire after the first FA contract? You won Bregman in the initial auction so you can not give him an option year. There are no option years for the initial auction. So essentially rookies and players in the initial auction will never have options. Option years can not be handed out at any time. They must be announced when bidding on a player in free agency by adding a "+" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 17:55:53 GMT -5
fast forward 6 years to bregman FA.
I bid Bregman 3 years 21 dollars.
St. Luois bids Breman 3 years 21 dollars +
Whpo wins
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 6, 2017 17:59:40 GMT -5
Same deal with rookies on their second contract, does the discount expire after the first FA contract? Once Rookies become Free Agents for the first time you can use a 20% discount. The second time they become a Free Agent no you will not get a 20% discount. So basically if the contract was assigned through Free Agency you will not receive a 20% discount once that contract is up. But if the contract was assigned through a Rookie Contract or the initial auction draft then yes you will receive a 20% discount contract once that contract is up. |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 6, 2017 18:01:33 GMT -5
fast forward 6 years to bregman FA. I bid Bregman 3 years 21 dollars. St. Luois bids Breman 3 years 21 dollars + Whpo wins If you bid first then you would win. There must be an increase. Option year does not count towards total contract value. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:23:27 GMT -5
Yes, that makes more sense now. Though what happens with say, rookies on their first FA contract? Let's say I have Bregman coming up on free agency and I slap an option year on him, but I decline that option year when the time comes, can I still claim a discount or did the discount expire when his initial contract expired? Same deal with rookies on their second contract, does the discount expire after the first FA contract? You won Bregman in the initial auction so you can not give him an option year. There are no option years for the initial auction. So essentially rookies and players in the initial auction will never have options. Option years can not be handed out at any time. They must be announced when bidding on a player in free agency by adding a "+" I'm talking about the next contract, when he hits FA again. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 19:20:41 GMT -5
A question that pertains to future contracts.
So once the initial auction is closed and processed, or once Opening Day comes and players can be placed on the DL, the new contracts we bid on will be for how many years? For example April 6 comes and someone posts a player because they have an opening on their MLB roster, will the bids be for only one year or more? I understand options are only available during the off season.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 6, 2017 19:21:37 GMT -5
You won Bregman in the initial auction so you can not give him an option year. There are no option years for the initial auction. So essentially rookies and players in the initial auction will never have options. Option years can not be handed out at any time. They must be announced when bidding on a player in free agency by adding a "+" I'm talking about the next contract, when he hits FA again. No you would not get the 20% discount. |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 6, 2017 19:26:42 GMT -5
A question that pertains to future contracts. So once the initial auction is closed and processed, or once Opening Day comes and players can be placed on the DL, the new contracts we bid on will be for how many years? For example April 6 comes and someone posts a player because they have an opening on their MLB roster, will the bids be for only one year or more? I understand options are only available during the off season. 29 - Maximum Contract is 4 years *36 Year Old Player = 3 year max contract *37 Year Old Player = 2 year max contract *38+ Year Old Player = 1 year max contract *Those max contracts do not include the option year. Age Requirements are based on the player’s age at the time of the April 2, 2017. 30 - Please post bids in this fashion (or some similar format): ##.# (cost), # years+(years). Bids are only made to the hundreth place and no further (##.#). Ex. 3 years + @ $2.75 31 - Options can be added to players by placing a "+" after the years. This means that at the end of the contract, if the player has an option, the owner can decide to keep that player for one more season or let him go. You can only give a player an option for one year. You are allowed to offer 4 years and add an option for a 5th year. 32 - Total Contract Value wins the bid for example the 3 years + @ $2.00 would win this bid: 2 years + @ $2.75 = $5.50-TCV 3 years + @ $2.00 = $6.00-TCV |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 19:29:53 GMT -5
I think all the questions need to be answered and every scenario written out before we are expected to vote on this otherwise it will be like the matchups,where people voted then realized they would've voted another way if they knew everything and instead of revoting we just put it in place even though we have 2 months
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 6, 2017 19:32:48 GMT -5
I think all the questions need to be answered and every scenario written out before we are expected to vote on this otherwise it will be like the matchups,where people voted then realized they would've voted another way if they knew everything and instead of revoting we just put it in place even though we have 2 months People need to understand the rules yes. Rules aren't changing, we are simply deciding on whether or not to put a limit on the number of options |
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